By Stephen Burton | Featuring Phil Smith, AECOM
We often separate the “serious” business of city-building—statutory planning, engineering, and delivery—from the subjective world of creativity.
But according to Phil Smith, an architect and urban designer with 30 years of experience, we all deserve a creative life.
In this episode of The Placemakers, I spoke with Phil, the Urban Design Lead at AECOM on the Sunshine Coast, about why creativity is actually a pragmatic tool for better urban outcomes.
Phil has a deep personal interest in sketching and drawing, often creating “quirky observations on the world”.
However, he hesitates to call himself an artist.
“I do avoid using the term ‘artist’ because I haven’t, like many of my artist friends, made the commitment to actually build a life on arts practice,” Phil explains.
Instead, he identifies as a “creative practitioner”.
For Phil, drawing isn’t just a hobby; it is a way to “make sense of what I don’t understand about the world”.
He argues that this practice of “noticing” directly informs the technical work of designing buildings and communicating with clients.
“It’s a powerful learning tool that we can use… to bring into our job regardless of what discipline or sector that we’re in,” Phil says.
When asked what makes a public place successful, Phil points to one critical ingredient: ownership.
“I think community and ownership of a place by a community is the most important thing to its success,” he says.
But how do you build ownership? Phil argues it comes from “story and meaning”.
Humans are driven by story; it is how we preserve and pass on knowledge. When we embed meaning into a place, the community values it.
Phil uses the Sydney Opera House as a prime example—a place where Australians feel a “collective ownership” because it connects to their identity.
When that connection fades, or when a place undergoes “corporatization,” the sense of ownership bleeds away, and places often fail.
One of the biggest changes Phil has seen over the last 20 years is the rise of community consultation.
While it introduces “difficult political elements,” Phil views it as a major benefit for design.
Consultation “slows the process down,” creating time for nuance and “space for a design narrative”.
“Governments get it,” Phil notes. “They understand that it’s a risk management tool… but they also understand that it builds better outcomes”.
For young practitioners entering the field, Phil’s advice is clear: understand your passion (“Start with Why”), find a mentor, and read constantly to refresh your thinking.
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We discuss the definition of a ‘creative practitioner’ and how to build ownership through storytelling.
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